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owls-and-violets:

shadowfae:

owls-and-violets:

OKAY, I just saw a post about a more ‘inclusive’ lgbt acronym thing, but it included things like otherkin, furries, and stuff like that. I can tolerate otherkin. I can tolerate furries. HOWEVER, if you think I am going to accept ‘transage’, ‘transrace’, necrophiles and pedophiles into the lgbt community, you are dead wrong. Please do not go looking for the post so that it does not get more attention than it already has. If you want a full-on explanation as to why I will not accept these ‘identities’ into the lgbt community, message me. I’m tired rn, but I will deliver if called upon.

That was a troll. Otherkin and furries aren’t LGBTQIAP+. No need to yell in the otherkin tag about it, everyone’s either going to fall for the troll (like you did) or just block. Nobody honestly believes otherkin and furries and the other stuff are queer, that would be ridiculous. 

Thank you for informing me, but I do know for a fact that there are people out there who do see pedophiles and ‘transrace’ people as lgbt+ who aren’t trolls that may feel validated by that post. I do understand that furries and otherkin aren’t lgbt+. I was just saying that if they were or if they want to be, I don’t feel it’s my place to exclude them. Sorry if I came off as rude or ignorant.

Not rude, but a little ignorant. That isn’t a problem in of itself, since you don’t get born knowing all this stuff. :p I’m glad you’re receptive to learning, though!

I’m not sure if I believe you on that, though, or if I just really don’t wanna believe some folks actually think pedophiles are LGBTQIAP+. I’d prefer not to think about that one too hard. But don’t worry, that post definitely wasn’t serious. Some of my more discourse-happy otherkin friends have shredded them, and I blocked the OP. No real need to worry, you haven’t done anything wrong.

owls-and-violets:

OKAY, I just saw a post about a more ‘inclusive’ lgbt acronym thing, but it included things like otherkin, furries, and stuff like that. I can tolerate otherkin. I can tolerate furries. HOWEVER, if you think I am going to accept ‘transage’, ‘transrace’, necrophiles and pedophiles into the lgbt community, you are dead wrong. Please do not go looking for the post so that it does not get more attention than it already has. If you want a full-on explanation as to why I will not accept these ‘identities’ into the lgbt community, message me. I’m tired rn, but I will deliver if called upon.

That was a troll. Otherkin and furries aren’t LGBTQIAP+. No need to yell in the otherkin tag about it, everyone’s either going to fall for the troll (like you did) or just block. Nobody honestly believes otherkin and furries and the other stuff are queer, that would be ridiculous. 

blueslushhie:

So, I have a few questions.

Can someone that has a kin explain to me what it is? I’m not sure I understand? Is it like a “gender” or is it just something you really like instead of saying “I really like plants” you say “I’m plant-kin”? I’m genuinely confused and I don’t understand it. I’m not looking to offend anyone and I’m sorry if I do. I just want to understand more💕

Otherkinity is an ontological phenomenon in which someone identifies partially or entirely as a nonhuman (or fictional, in the case of fictionkind) entity on a nonphysical, involuntary, and profound level.

And all of those words are important. You are your kintype, your kintype is you. It’s not just really liking something. It comes from ‘other’ (not human, not elf, from the history) and the suffix -kind, as in mankind and elfinkind. It’s not kinship, as some tend to believe.

If you’ve got any questions, let me know, I can answer pretty much all of them.

hallowedbone:

apprehensiveacolyte:

arethinn:

alynnafoxie:

Is it just me or am I the only otherkin who doesn’t need a moodboard for myself..

Hmmm… I’ve definitely never made one or sent in a request to one of those blogs that make them.  I suppose it’s possible I may have reblogged a fae moodboard at some point, but I don’t remember doing it, and didn’t tag it as such if I did. I reblogged this celestial one but I just thought it was a pretty aesthetic, didn’t really have kintype in mind. Same with this unicorn one (which isn’t something I regard as really one of my kintypes), although the person who created it did it as an otherkin moodboard, but seems to have done so with at least a little irony if you look at her tags.

(And observe my comment on this Zork moodboard, which is rather a different animal, implying that most don’t do it for me.)

In all honesty, I really don’t need moodboards for myself. 

I mostly just keep asking for them for two reasons: a) because the blog I’m asking for an aesthetic from is run by a friend who groks me well enough to make an aesthetic that fits me rather than the concept of me, and b) because eventually, like monkeys on typewriters, one of these kids will eventually come to the realization that no, not every Gallifreyan aesthetic needs to feature a goddamn police box. 

I don’t care for em either. I block blogs that make them, harsh as it sounds, because they just fill the tags and my dashboard otherwise. 

When someone is obsessed with showing off an aesthetic, their personalities behind that end up being pretty insubstantial for my taste. Moodboards and the like came riding on the wave of tumblrkinnies and there’s a reason for that.

I like them, preferably more when they’re sourced. Partly “oooh pretty!!”, but when done right, sometimes they bring an angle to all the images that bring me resonance that I haven’t considered, and if it’s a good day, I introspect a bit and know a little bit more about myself. (For example, when I first saw the Japanese Shinto archways in a forest, I couldn’t place why it resonated as much as it did until I figured out how similar the aesthetic is between the design of them and my homeworld’s, and from there I started remembering how the spirituality worked, so it was almost entirely because I stumbled upon the photography that I remember as much as I do about those areas.)

But tbh mostly I just hunt down all the variation for the resonance because I am prone to dissociation and the more I’ve got that I haven’t already seen five times, the easier it is to handle.

pop-step-fink:

aight so funfact of the day

most people who kin don’t do it to cope!! there are those who do, but not everyone does!!! so those antikin who’re out there to find a better coping mech, shut ur heck because 1) not everyone does and 2) it’s not unhealthy unless u fuckin go deep into it and warp ur personality around it!!! ya’ll don know jack!!!

Otherkinity isn’t a voluntary coping mechanism. That’s copinglinking. I’m sure you tried, though. It is also neither healthy nor unhealthy – your identity is yours, and you’re the one who decides, not the community or the identity.

the-glass-spider:

One thing that makes me gag a little is otherkin of any kind – though fictionkin are the ones I’ve seen doing it most – who say that when they’re in an insert-character-here shift, their eyes change to the color of their kintype’s. Three things bother me about that:

  1. If your eyes are light enough in pigment – blue, green, light hazel, grey (holy fuck, especially grey) then they will reflect more light. Changes in clothing and make up effect the color others will perceive them as. If I wear a green sweater and a warm toned eyeshadow, my eyes will look green under everything but direct sunlight. If I put on cool toned eyeshadow and dark colors, then most people will tell you they are blue except under fluorescent lighting, which washes them out somewhat. Your eyes haven’t changed color, they’re reflecting light and color differently, and that’s not related to your kintype, that’s just science.
  2. Nobody is ever willing to provide proof. Pictures of this alleged phenomena would be easy to fake, but even lying is above and beyond the level of effort people are willing to put in for this. No one resists harder than people claiming their eyes have shifted to a color outside the human spectrum – who are the ones I would most demand proof from because if you want to claim you’re breaking the laws of human biology, I will at least need you to commit to this shitty idea.
  3. P-shifting is not real. You cannot physically manifest your kintype traits. That’s not a thing. And when everyone says it’s not a thing, that includes eyes. You may get more teenagers to believe your eyes are changing than you’ll get to believe you sprouted wings, but it’s still based in a concept that the community as a whole, which rarely agrees on anything, agrees is bullshit. And if you would like to fight me on that, see point 2 and send me a shred of evidence.

Congrats. You fell for a ton of trolls. 

Nobody otherkin and fictionkin who actually knows what the words mean is going to let pshifters into the community. They’re effing dangerous half the time and need therapy the other half. 

elevengrackles:

a-dragons-journal:

Otherkin life hack: pushing all your nervous/anxious movement/jittering into your wings so you look calm because your physical body’s still even though your wings are flexing and shaking all over the place

*flails arms wildly*

I have six wings that get tangled up quite painfully if I don’t fly correctly do not give me this kind of advice I will Die.

faithryley:

hello its ur boi… ryley robinson
im a new kin blog that’s… not technically new. but still. 
i need ppl to follow so pls reblog/like if
-youre otherkin/fictionkin
-you post oceans/water
-you post nintendo
-you post subnautica

Oh shit hey Ryley!! Been meaning to buy Subnautica but at the very least I’m buying it for my brother. I got some ocean stuff here, and I’m pretty fictionkin myself (not Subnautica, sadly) so hello!

yaboiniqk:

orionion:

shadowfae:

orionion:

yaboiniqk:

orionion:

A few years back I had a blog @cleansingfacialwipes and it was meant to be a joke at the expense of the otherkin/ plantkin community. It was insensitive and offensive, and I feel like I need to apologize for it because those actions and words don’t reflect my views now. I’m sorry for making a joke out of and over-exaggerating an identity that many people hold close to their hearts. It was an extremely shitty thing to do.

It wasn’t that shitty of a thing to do. Otherkins are jokes. They actually were started to mock the trans community(which is fucked up) and were meant to say “if u wanna be a boy and you’re a girl, I can be a dog lol.” so the people who jumped on board with it are either full of shit or just so caught up in what’s “real” on this godforsaken site that they believe they’re supposed to be fuckin seahorses and shit. Either way, it’s not shitty to make fun of them for that.

It may have started as a joke, but it’s not to a lot of people anymore. And I don’t believe it’s right to discredit those who are coming to terms with themselves and their identity. I’m not educated on the otherkin community and their impact on the transgender community, but it’s just hypocritical to to preach love and acceptance and not extend that to others of whatever identity.

Not to hijack, but I’m hijacking anyway.

OP, the otherkin community is not a transphobic one and definitely wasn’t made just for transphobia. So if Yab could not scapegoat us, that’d be great.

The spiritual beliefs found in our community go back thousands of years, and are found in most, if not all, cultures. However, our documents of the modern otherkin community go back to two groups of Tolkein elves – the Queen Elf’s Daughters and the Silver Elves, which were started in mailing lists and offline groups (as the internet largely didn’t exist yet) in the early ‘70s. 

The internet helped make things more widespread, and the term ‘otherkind’ was actually coined in 1990 by a very tired person who got sick of typing orc/hobbit/dragon/unicorn kin over and over. It literally means ‘not humankind, not elfkind’, because elves are like that.

The D got dropped somewhere in there, so now a lot of people think that the ‘kin’ suffix is meant to be ‘kinship’ – it isn’t. It’s the -kind suffix, like mankind and elvenkind, which were the original inspiration.

Otherkin isn’t a joke, as any community member who isn’t 13 or wishkin could tell you. We get a lot of trolls and antis because we’re weird. There’s a reason most of the community exists online in highly-vetted and difficult to enter private forums. Because people like Yab up there think we’re jokes and like to ruin everything nice we have, because they’re not much more than classroom bullies and just as pathetic.

It’s shitty to make fun of anyone for things that aren’t actively wrong. Otherkin is neither harmful nor helpful – in the same way that hair colour is neither harmful or helpful. It’s a part of your identity, nothing more.

Thank you for adding this!!

@shadowfae it’s not wrong to make fun of anything. I’ll leave that alone though bc people who say it’s wrong cry about everything. My main thing is that it doesn’t make any fuckin sense. educate me on what “other kin” actually is and I may change my mind. But as far as I know, it’s just people who like animals, feel an attachment they consider empathy and relation to that animal, and decide that’s what they truly are inside. It sounds like horse shit. I don’t care if anyone feels that way. It’s not hurting anyone but themselves. More power to em. It’s just the same shit as any other “minority.” I’ll make fun of it indiscriminately. Not bc I have any hatred for it. Just bc I have no real sense of humor so I’m left to resort to making fun. And otherkin are up there with bronies on easy target nibbas

Sooooo, let me get this straight, @yaboiniqk. You’re going to make fun of a community you admit you know nothing about because you think it’s funny, and then complain when I tell you off.

I don’t mean it’s ‘wrong’ as in trying to explain to a child that things are wrong. I mean that it’s rude, distasteful, and shows how little empathy you have for people when you make fun of them for something that really has nothing to do with you. You are one voice among a few hundred all spewing the same nonsense and refusing to listen or even do your basic research. All you’re doing is looking stupid, if you ask me.

It doesn’t make sense to you because you haven’t bothered to look past the few antis and trolls you’ve seen. If you actually want to be educated, sure, I can do that. But it sounds like you just want a cheap laugh at the expense of others, and don’t seem very happy when you’re getting shown the door. 

So, to ask completely seriously and sincerely: do you actually want to know what otherkin is and how it happened as we know it, or do you just want a cheap laugh at our expense and don’t care to listen? Because I’ve educated a lot of people, and if you aren’t willing to listen and learn, I really don’t feel like going to the effort, which is reasonable enough. I won’t pass much judgement either way and your response is up to you, but if you do want to learn, best to let me know and I’ll explain, then answer any questions you might have.