otherkindfaq:

How do I describe divines in my FAQs? I know nothing about the community and I can’t really find any resources. (More Qs under the cut, feel free to reblog/reply because I do need help with this)

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Aight, let’s tackle these. These are, of course, my opinion and thus have the correct amount of salt and edge. Take it as you will. Under the cut for bitching and long.


Is the divine community primarily a mentally ill one? I ask because I see a lot of psychotic folks who tie their divinity into that, which is valid of course.

I wouldn’t say so. That is, to say, that divine doesn’t always mean mentally ill, and the two are unrelated by nature. It’s likely that the members of the divine community are primarily mentally ill, in the same way that the otherkin community has a majority of queer members. 

We’re more accepting of those with divine delusions in our ranks, but the two aren’t generally taken to be one and the same, or naturally connected.

Are there, like, any documented people in human history that you see as being a divine?

I consider all prophets whose words generally come true as the vessels of small shards – sticking some deific magic into humans and letting them interpret your will. I would also consider messiahs like Jesus to be divine, because let’s be honest, something deific went into them.

I should, however, at this point make it clear that I do not consider angels any more divine than humans. They’re magic, sure, but no more so than anything else. They just happen to be more physically close to some deities – messengers and servants, mostly. I don’t think that makes them special any more than the demons I used for that job aren’t considered divine. (That’s probably some Abrahamic thing about how demons are “fallen and evil and tempt into sin” but it should be on equal footing.)

Divine is defined (say that five times fast!) as “relating to, like, or from a god” and if you’re going to include angels in that third one, well, you’d also have to include humans, and nobody’s going to say that. Shards count, prophets count, messiahs and demigods count. Angels and demons are no different than humans, just magical. (Fae are largely not subscribing to any deity but Dana, but that’s because she’s Faerie Mom. I believe they don’t as a whole consider themselves divine so much as they are spirits.)

As for why I’m pushing more towards angels than demons, it’s because demons generally don’t consider themselves divine either, and there’s no point bringing that up.

What’s it actually like being a divine? How does that relate and differ from godshards, or is that the same thing?

It’s a fine line. My experience as an incarnate, however fallen, deity is vastly different than my buddy @/glittered-goddess, who is a shard of an elder deity. She’s a hell of a lot more powerful than me. Give her active magic and give me back my proper godhood and make us fight, I’d probably win, but it’d suck a whole lot. Make me fight her full-fledged Elder Goddess self and she’d squish me like an ant, because that’s what I am to a proper elder god.

Godshards are the other part of deities that aren’t incarnate. Shards are a bit of essence in a body, incarnate are well, the full thing. The more powerful a god is, the less likely it is you’ll find an incarnate version. Hell, Dana’s a shard and there’s already too much magic and godstuff in her body. Any more and she would’ve died from it. 

I get to be incarnate because I’m fallen and lost my power because I died and didn’t get to reincarnate as a new god.

As for what it’s properly like, well, Dana’s experience is pretty common, if a bit more powerful than everyone else’s. Not fun to wake up at 2am with such an adrenaline rush it’s like I could annihilate the world in seconds if I didn’t blow myself up first from the power. It’s also being very magical and very much in tune with your alignment and acting accordingly; to try and be broad with that definition.

For me, it’s a lot of a mess because at least three elder gods have helped shape my essence. I’ll decide on my alignment later, I think, but for now I’m mostly in tune with many things and almost melt into them and let myself be defined by them. I suck at explaining this, it’s kinda hard to describe. My surroundings, so long as they’re the right kind (forest, city, sky, sea), turn into me and I turn into them. I get in tune and all that, and it feels like infinity. You may or may not know the feeling. Like the world’s at your fingertips and empires will rise and fall but you’ll still be there. One spark, one touch, and everything changes but you’ll still be standing and watching above it all, because you are infinity, you are ending and unending, and you are everything that is, has been, or will ever be.

Oh, that and the inability to keep a brain-map of one kind of body. Kinda goes into polymorph territory I suppose, but it’s more like I’m too big to keep to one mortal-defined form. The best way to describe it is this video, which is a frog put through those ‘deep-fried meme from 2002′ generator thingies. That’s divine stuff, proper and true divine stuff.

Can fictionkind of godly characters call themselves divine?

If angels can when they don’t count any more than humans do, then I damn well count. Just because I’m not from this world and documented recently instead of by a few folks a few hundred years ago doesn’t mean I suddenly don’t count, and I wholly invite those who don’t agree to come on down to where I live so I can personally beat them up.

What kind of things do divines identify as?

Er, deities and deity-related entities? On the tumblr side, you usually find angels, gods, prophets, shards, and if you’re stubborn, maybe a fallen-angel-demon-Abrahamic-thingy. Haven’t seen any demigods, though. Wonder where they all ran off to.

Who are prophets, how does that relate to divines?

Oh, I answered this early. They’re most likely shards to some degree – not quite all god in a human body, but more likely human soul combined with godly essence – but they’re divine and I respect them. They don’t exactly get the longest end of the stick, but let’s be honest, from a god’s perspective, they’re effing useful when you don’t wanna make a public appearance. 

Is there a difference between ‘divinekin’ and just calling yourself ‘divine,’ or is it just the same as the difference between ‘IDing as’ and ‘kin’?

Calling yourself divine means it’s a part of you. Divinekin means you formally acknowledge it as a large part of your identity. It’s just a preference – like how I’m technically deifigender or whatever, but I don’t use the term because I don’t place much importance in it. (That and I think it sounds stupid to say out loud, but that’s just me being weird.)

whoawoomy:

Can we like…callout bullshit/dumbass kin stuff like “kindating” and all the other bs without mocking otherkin in general

Because there are still people who take it seriously and dont want to be lumped in with these dipshits

I like this person. We already do call out tumblrkin to a point, but there’s only so much we can do, and they tend to multiply due to tumblr’s near hivemind mentality. (I say this as a person who has, through personal kin experiences, been in a hivemind.)

There are still legitimate otherkin and fictionkin around, yes, and I wish there were more of us but oh well. If you want to join us in calling out tumblrkin and the mockery they’ve made of our subculture, that’d be awesome. We could always use more hands on deck here.

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catxlyst:

I’m quite close to reaching 15k, so I’m offering blogrates for anyone who reblogs 3 or more posts from here  

Message me once done and I’ll post your blograte (must be following me!) 

Does adding to queue count or must it be an immediate reblog? 😮 Blogrates are always nice and so is reblogging photography, but spamming my followers is not so nice.

fgneibarger:

While the overall concepts of otherkins and therians still eludes me, I feel that may be partially my own failing. I have a hard time taking in the metaphysical as fact, it just never seems real to me. But it’s real to them, and it affects them, and in the end, so long as they aren’t hurting anybody, then that’s fine.

Now, going after these people and treating them like shit because you don’t understand it and have a hole in your life that only be filled by belittling people who are different from you, that is not fine.

Oh, I like this guy.

Out of curiousity, do you ever think that maybe being otherkin is a phase or something? (I hope this doesn’t come off as rude, I’m genuinely curious)

kin-assistance:

Out of curiosity, do you ever think that maybe most kin know more about their identity than an unrelated third party?

If it was a phase, that means you were never otherkin in the first place. It’s a permanent, involuntary identity. It is not a phase by definition – and even if it was, why do you care? Do you just assume that because hair grows and must eventually be cut, there’s no point to acknowledging the existence of dyed hair? Even if something isn’t permanent, it is still worthy of note while it exists.
But the point remains that otherkinity is an involuntary, permanent identity: and believe me, I don’t think there’s a person who hasn’t considered that it’s a phase. Introspection is the one thing every last one of us shares. I would be worried if we didn’t consider this angle, and found it nearly always false.

If your otherkin identity goes away, it’s because you were mistaken about it, on in extremely rare cases, gained closure and moved on.

It isn’t a phase, no. And in most cases, it is incredibly rude to ask that. It’s akin to oh, asking someone working with implicit derivatives if they’ve tried putting it in their phone’s calculator. If it was viable, they would have done it already.

~Mod Lu

I just realized in the penultimate paragraph I typo’d “or in extremely rare cases” and my phone’s autocorrect didn’t pick it up so It’s Time To Die, Now.

anti-kin-cringe:

anti-kin-cringe:

GONDOR GRIM CALLS FOR AID!

If anyone has positive and solid information regarding divine/ deity/ angel/ demon/ stuff in a similar vein, please poke Grim because Grim has failed to find it. D: 

Also a bit more on otherlink would be great too. 

– Grim

@skelejon
What we are looking for is resources, faqs, and other things that are comparable to what we already have on that list. it could be for any of the divinekin varieties, we need more quality content for all of them.
– Lazy

I could write a godkin FAQ, but y’all are going to need to toss some questions at me because I’m guaranteed to forget at least half of them.

heroicpup:

shadowfae:

heroicpup:

So, I’m going through going through a mini crisis. I’ve been reading about otherkin, in particular hetalia kin, and I’ve been relating to a lot of the things. I’m starting to wonder if I’m kin with America. My friends that have watched it all say I act like him. The only differences I can really think of right now between me and him is that I’m not scared of the paranormal, I’m not as sporty and I am intrested in witchcraft. I go by the name Alfred both real life and online. When I was looking for names after coming out as trans, it was the only think that felt right. Absolutely nothing else felt right. Also, I’ve been roleplaying him in different roleplays since January last year and thats when I’m happiest. I’ve roleplayed other people but my emotions are stronger when roleplaying him.

Does this sound like kin to you or am I over thinking things? I just need some advice with this

Also, all my friends in real life make fun of kins so I can’t talk to any of them.

Ehhhhhh, sorta? 

Being otherkin is identifying as something nonhuman, entirely or partially, on a nonphysical, involuntary, and profound level.

(For fictionkin, swap ‘nonhuman’ for ‘fictional’.)

Sure, you could be him. But there’s also the idea that you might be using his identity as a voluntary coping mechanism (consciously or subconsciously), which is copinglinking, and fits more along your roleplaying lines.

You should do some self-introspection. A metric ton of it. It doesn’t matter if you act like him, so long as you identify as him.

(On a side note, it isn’t ‘kins’ – try kintypes. Therianthropes have theriotypes, fictionkin have fictotypes. It’s generally kintypes, though.)

Thanks for answering.

I’ll have to do that.

And I’m sorry if i messed up, I’m still quite new to this so I’m still learning a few things

Oh, no problem.

Even if you did mess up (you really didn’t, you just had some info wrong), it happens to all of us. You’re going to be wrong about your kintypes. That isn’t so much a guarantee of “what you know now is Wrong”, it’s more like the knowledge that nobody fully understands themselves, and that you’re not at all likely to be right every time. There’ll be wrong turns and mistakes, because nobody’s perfect.

Don’t sweat it too much. You’re new, so you’ve got plenty of learning to do. My ‘kinformation’ tag has plenty of stuff, and I’m always willing to answer questions if I know the answers. I can point you to others too if you’d like more than one opinion.

Hope that helps.

heroicpup:

So, I’m going through going through a mini crisis. I’ve been reading about otherkin, in particular hetalia kin, and I’ve been relating to a lot of the things. I’m starting to wonder if I’m kin with America. My friends that have watched it all say I act like him. The only differences I can really think of right now between me and him is that I’m not scared of the paranormal, I’m not as sporty and I am intrested in witchcraft. I go by the name Alfred both real life and online. When I was looking for names after coming out as trans, it was the only think that felt right. Absolutely nothing else felt right. Also, I’ve been roleplaying him in different roleplays since January last year and thats when I’m happiest. I’ve roleplayed other people but my emotions are stronger when roleplaying him.

Does this sound like kin to you or am I over thinking things? I just need some advice with this

Also, all my friends in real life make fun of kins so I can’t talk to any of them.

Ehhhhhh, sorta? 

Being otherkin is identifying as something nonhuman, entirely or partially, on a nonphysical, involuntary, and profound level.

(For fictionkin, swap ‘nonhuman’ for ‘fictional’.)

Sure, you could be him. But there’s also the idea that you might be using his identity as a voluntary coping mechanism (consciously or subconsciously), which is copinglinking, and fits more along your roleplaying lines.

You should do some self-introspection. A metric ton of it. It doesn’t matter if you act like him, so long as you identify as him.

(On a side note, it isn’t ‘kins’ – try kintypes. Therianthropes have theriotypes, fictionkin have fictotypes. It’s generally kintypes, though.)

chimeraprism:

shadowfae:

chimeraprism:

Otherkin pride flag by BeyondLGBT

Today, we discovered that there are otherkin pride flags and that there’s actually a bunch of them (this is just the community pride flag, but there are specific ones too. It’s wild). 

-James & Amethyst 

They do exist, but they’re not exactly completely accepted within the community. 95% of otherkin pride flags are made by trolls and grossly misinformed folks. A few older users suggested calling them identity banners, to divorce the misinformation that otherkin is a queer identity, which on its own it isn’t. I can see the use for these sorts of creations, but don’t mistake that because they exist, everyone accepts them, because it’s quite the argument-starter.

Might want to do a bit of research before accepting such things, but at least now you know some of it.

Hmm… 

For clarity (to anybody who sees this post), the original post is not us suggesting that they should or shouldn’t be used, just that we were surprised that they exist. We are completely and entirely disinterested in getting involved in discourse over whether these are a good idea or not. 

Having said that, thank you shadowfae for sharing that information. 

-James & Amethyst

I’m not asking you to take a position, and I did read your surprise at its existence. I was moreso warning you that you were likely to run into the controversy surrounding it and why that controversy exists, hopefully before anyone in a particularly bad mood showed up and started getting angry at you for not knowing / somehow disagreeing with their side of the controversy when that’s not what you were doing.

Apologies if I didn’t make that clear.