actual gatekeeping: you (fictionkind) have exactly the same mix of experiences as the rest of us (therians/otherkind) but we think you’re a stupid concept so you don’t count
not gatekeeping: you (copinglinkers) have a completely different experience from the rest of us (therians/otherkind/fictionkind) so you don’t count under those words specifically, but you can hang out with us anyway as long as you’re respectful and use your own terminology so people don’t confuse us
my favorite types of kin r the 30yos who are super serious abt kin stuff and take 4 months for decide if theyre kin with pussyclaw warrior cats
My favourite type of tumblrkin are the ones who disrespect and mutilate a 50+yo community and subculture because it’s the “trendy” thing to do.
“what is it abt teenagers that make them hate adulthood” what is it abt adults that make them wanna shit on kids having fun lol
I don’t have a problem with kids having harmless fun. I have a problem when they’re being disrespectful about it, because at that point it isn’t harmless.
Go have harmless fun in a role play community. Something that is pretend and make believe and not serious, a for fun activity.
Not try and take over an established identity community with decades of histroy attatched and try and force it to be whatever you want like some kind of toy before you get bored and leave—after spreading waves of misinformation and leaving a fuck ton of cleanup for the rest of us.
Being a teenager doesnt free you of responsibility or consequence. If you are old enough to actually be on this website whose mobile verison is rates 17+ then you can handel being told youre wrong and need to look for a new community to better suit your needs.
Also it’s not just teenagers who pull this ignorant bullshit. We hate when anyone does it, not just “kids having fun”.
People have been faking kin experiences since the community came into existence, but reaching “obnoxious fad” levels among children specifically is a fairly recent development.
I remember when I could personally count the number of fictionkin in the community.
You know it’s bad when an established community built on self-exploration, growth, and introspection becomes a fucking meme among outsiders for the exact opposite reasons–petty drama about “fighting for dominance in the parking lot” and people bringing “having problematic IDs” into fucking callout posts.
The communities have never been free of drama but it’s people who take one look at an anime character and decide it’s Literally Them™ now and harass people over “kinning with” the same character as them or someone they don’t like or sending hate over FUCKING SHIPS who are ruining this for people who live with being a certain way and have done so as a community for over 50 years.
So no, it’s not “adults hating kids having fun”, because it’s not a game. It’s not a platform for your fucked-up, ass-backwards “progressive politics”. It’s an identity, an existence, a journey and an understanding of self.
And you are undoing 50+ years of community growth in the span of about 5. I hope you’re happy, I hope you know what you’ve made this subculture look like with your “fun and games.” Go join an RP forum, look up old fandom sites, do something in the fandom aspect of things. Stay out of our fucking communities if you think it’s just “people choosing to be characters for fun”.
Since pendulum/divination blogs are getting popular again in the tumblr otherkin community, I’d like to call folks attention to this portion of an old essay on otherkin by Tiernan, the owner of the Tir Nan Oc mailing list (one of the largest otherkin mailing lists back in the day):
A true mentor learns as much as sie teaches, and uses the tools appropriately. You cannot cannot cannot tell someone else what they are – if you do, you are lying to them. Oh, you may be correct – but you are still lying to them because your intent is false. If someone had told me I was Sidhe before I Understood it from the heart out, how much would it have meant? Would I have grown? Would I have learned? No, because I wouldn’t have done the footwork to try and understand why I felt/thought/experienced the way I did. I wouldn’t have come to Understand the culture that so impressed my soul that it continues to resonate thousands of years later, above and beyond any other I lived in. From the heart out.
Excerpt from the essay From the Heart Out by Tiernan. Key portions bolded for emphasis.
-Hey! Are you about to reblog that beautiful photo or artwork?-
No caption? Go to the source and check.
Creators get their captions erased constantly. Mostly by bloggers who don’t want the text
CAPTIONS OFTEN CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFO!!- If you erase a caption that credits a creator that sucks dude. You wouldn’t go to a gallery and paint over an artists signature on a displayed masterpiece- don’t erase their online signature either
“What if it’s not even information on the artist but just them talking about the piece?? That’s not important right?” – On this piece I talk about how I made it directly after the pulse shooting as an Orlando citizen. People have deleted that which completely takes away from the pieces meaning. Don’t do that.
If the source has no caption? Look at that blog.
Are they mass uploading art or photos all without captions or credit?? They’re probably stealing all of those. There’s tons of blogs that do this and they can have tens of thousands of followers. Following them/reblogging from them contributes theft. (If they continue to see results, they will continue to steal and re-upload)
Has someone in the replies commented saying : Hey this is “—–”’s work!?
Sometimes people will even link to the proper creators blog. Reblog it from them please. It takes no time at all and makes a huge difference.
Tl;dr Be aware if you’re about to reblog a stolen post. Watch out for aesthetic/art blogs that mass re-upload photos and art without credit. It takes a milisecond to check and can save a creator.
After a lot of discussion and thinking, I’ve figured out what I can offer those wanting to help me out over the next several months – knowledge.
I get a lot of asks each week for things like “How do you host a tea party?” or “How did you make that ____,” or “Do you have a recipe for your ___?”
My disability benefits will end in January, and honestly, I’m terrified. There’s a mountain of debt I need to get through before I could even think about building a life of my own. Learning to drive, getting a car, and eventually, a real job. Things I never got to do due to my health.
So this is what I’d like to do. I have a lot of information I can pass on – tutorials, recipes, you name it.
Anyone can live that Thrifty Princess life, and I want to teach everyone how.
The first goal will be to compile everything into a free .pdf for everyone to have.
After that? I’d like to publish the book for real.
And all of this starts with you guys. I’ve never seen such a strong support group like I have seen here on tumblr. If even 1/10th of my followers all pledged $1 on my patreon (that’s only $12 a year!), I could do more than survive, I could live.
When will my life begin?
Well, hopefully right now.
Join me on the next step of my journey, I promise you won’t regret it:
We are almost 1 month away from having my patreon a whole year!
In the meantime, if you are interested in holiday-themed goodies (and a tiara giveaway every other month!) from yours truly, today is the last day to get your pledge in!
Here’s the tiara being given away tomorrow:
If you are already a patron, tomorrow (12/1) your payment method of choice will be charged the amount of your pledge.
The extra support during the holidays would be super helpful. ;_;
Yo, can we normalize being wrong about your experiences and being open about making mistakes in this community? Pretty much everyone has been Completely Sure Something Is A Thing and then later on realized…… that they were wrong about it, in some form or another.
Someone going all-out into exploring a potential identity to see how it feels before saying whether or not they think it’s likely (or even feeling like it’s likely and diving straight into acknowledging it as A Thing) is only ever a problem if people refuse to go back on their labels and admit they made a mistake.
It’s not that uncommon to confuse a kintype for a soulbond/headmate or a hearttype or vice versa or any combination of these. Personal narratives can affect perception of identity and can cause people to internalize or externalize things like this a lot.
I thought I was Sora for years. I told so many people that I was him, it wasn’t a secret or anything. Then I realized he was actually a soulbond and we had gotten mixed up with each other (and I had some huge misunderstandings of how this stuff worked for awhile due to my ex) and it was scary to finally say “hey, so I was actually wrong about this” because of the pervasiveness of feeling like you need to know 100% about yourself before you say anything, and if you realize otherwise you were “just making it up”.
Mistakes happen. They’re normal. Thinking you’re one thing when you’re actually another thing is completely normal. You’re not betraying anyone if you realize you made a mistake. What isn’t okay and normal is refusing to acknowledge the possibility that you could be wrong about who you are. It’s scary, I know, but it’s really important.
It’s a lot better to really look at yourself and be open to change and accepting responsibility than it is to desperately cling to labels and false identities that don’t suit you. This is’t a contest, otherkind/fictionkind/therian identities don’t grant you access to some “exclusive club”, and they’re definitely not somehow more real or legitimate or better than things like otherheartedness, plurality, etc. or just being human that relates heavily to “weird” experiences.
Being yourself, without trying to force yourself into an experience you don’t fit, is more important than the labels or titles you come across. Learning to express what you really feel without fancy buzzwords or fear of backlash due to an honest admission of realizing you thought you were something else.
If everyone’s so hung up on who uses what words to describe themselves and who fits what terminology, why not focus on experiences and existences instead? Let people make mistakes. Let people know it’s okay if they’ve grown and changed and used to think some pretty stupid things. I bet you most of us thought p-shifting was possible at some point. I know I did.
So let’s kill this culture of belittling people for being wrong about themselves and making newbie (or not-so-newbie) mistakes. We were all new to this at one point. We all had mishaps and confusion. So let’s remember that, and be honest and open about it, okay?
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