shadmario:

uh here’s a hot take:

yuhuh, if you believe in past life kintypes, sure, you can’t pick your kintypes.

but you CAN pick what you choose to PUBLICLY express and embrace.

let’s say you believe in your past life you were something really gross. nasty. sure, you can’t change a past life. but you control in THIS life whether you express that or not.

so i cannot for the life of me think why people choose to publicly talk about how they in a past life were a murderer or rapist or something cruel like that, and then hide it with “i can’t choose my kins!”. yeah you can’t choose em but you can choose to express em.

uhhh, 90% of the folks i know like that, including me, make sure to keep shit tagged. if you don’t like it, unfollow. they’re allowed to say what they please about themselves. let people be who they are, jeez.

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shadowfae:

rainywoodswolf:

hey, i’m really sorry if this offends anyone, but i’ve been seeing a lot of similar patterns lately.

so, the kin community had a really huge boost of members in about 2014 or 2015. it was mostly people who believed in reincarnation or such, or people who were just getting into it (both just getting on the bandwagon and learning something new about themselves). today, the kin community has died down quite a bit. and i know there are lots of you out there who are just as passionate as me, or maybe you’re just a casual therian / firm believer in reincarnation. 

but what i’ve noticed is that there’s been a huge decrease of people who actually believe in reincarnation and the such and actually ‘care’ about kin. most people are treating it as just a silly game or something, i’ve seen tons of people refer to it as roleplaying.and, i know everyone has their own perspective and definition of what kin really is, but… i’m pretty sure that’s not what any of this is? wouldn’t that be a synpath or otherhearted? relating with a character because you identify with them a lot or roleplaying as a character you relate with or project onto isn’t what kin is at all, and i’m seeing tons of people getting all the definitions mixed together and it’s almost kind of alarming. from my understanding, it’s about identifying AS, not with characters, and in the case of therians (and even fictional characters!), learning about your past lives and connecting with them. this isn’t a lifestyle – it’s not something you necessarily need to devote your time and identity to, but it also isn’t some silly hobby or game. i’m not saying you have to take it seriously to be considered ‘valid’, but please do some research before you call yourself otherkin, fictionkin, or a therian!

 again, i’m really sorry if i offended anyone. reincarnation is a huge thing in my family’s culture, and i’ve been a firm believer of it since i was young, it’s just a really big part of my identity and it kind of disheartens me to see that the most of the community nowadays is people who aren’t even sure if they’re kin or not. 😦

 thank you so much for reading! feel free to reply, i actually encourage you to argue since i’ve never really had a chance to speak my opinion on this and would like to see this situation from different perspectives 

You are entirely correct, but you do seem a little confused so I’d like to explain what happened here.

Otherkinity, or rather, a very very warped version of it came to tumblr. I’d like to say 2012-2014, but honestly, I don’t remember. One of the earliest records we have of this warped version on tumblr is the Yandere Bitch Club. There aren’t many records left of them, but there are people who saw it firsthand and can tell you about it. The YBC was a few white girls pretending to be Japanese transwomen with DID in hopes of claiming all their favourite anime characters as their fictotypes without encountering doubles. 

They are the ones who started the “kin is a verb” and “you can’t be kin outside of your race” – along with other misinformation. They used their definitions and false authority to try and dictate others, but otherkin either looks crazy or super cool to outsiders, so they and others like them drew a lot of people in. Mostly teenagers.

Effectively, we were looking at the start of a cult-like mentality. Now, I heard about the community in 2015 or so, so I didn’t witness this myself. It wasn’t as bad as it is now about it, but it was kinda bad. It spun out of control and we were looking at a few hundred to a couple thousand people who aren’t otherkin, but think it’s a fancy roleplaying thing or a coping mechanism that allows them to dictate fandom and control others.

And yes, a large percentage of these people, who we’re going to call tumblrkin as that’s what they’re generally called, are also fandom antis. The older term for them is wishkin, but tumblrkin are the warped cult-like teenagers (and sometimes folks in their early 20s) who do this. They don’t understand it’s a personal spiritual and / or psychological belief. They have no idea what it actually is. It’s swapping kintypes like trading cards and using them to control people. And then it’s all dusted up in pastel pink, ‘uwu’ concern trolling, ‘think of the poor defenseless minors / POC!!’, and glitter.

It’s toxic and vicious is what it is. I had a tangle with it about a year ago. I still have no idea if the 21yo guy who got dragged into it was an actual pedophile or if he was framed because claiming ‘pedophile’ is a really good way to ruin someone’s life and 13yos are vicious and don’t understand consequences. (My digestive system is also still royally fucked up.)

The amount of actual otherkin and fictionkin is about the same ratio as always – maybe a little bit more, as the community gains more visibility and more people have words for their experiences. But never, and I cannot emphasize this enough, never take tumblrkin for actual otherkin unless you know that they are. Because they’re not. They’re so, so not, and all they’re doing is spreading misinformation and hurting people.

If you think you can correct some of them, try. But if you can’t or if you know you don’t have the patience / the willpower, don’t even bother, just block and move on. It’s not worth it. 

That being said, if someone who was previously tumblrkin wants to know what’s really going on, what otherkinity and fictionkind actually are – tell them! Let them know! And if they need help getting out of tumblrkin spaces, help them or direct them to someone who can. I’m all for giving people second chances and listening to them. But be careful about it, and you’ll be okay.

Now you know what happened, so you’ll be able to make better decisions about it now. 😀 If that helps?

The tumble tag #otherkin was started in 2011. By early 2012 it had already become a slightly less extreme version what it is now.

That makes sense, yeah. It’s been a while since I ran through history posts and I just started a new job, so time is an alien concept to me at the moment. I’m sure I could hunt up the posts later if needed, I’m sure they’re around somewhere.

rainywoodswolf:

hey, i’m really sorry if this offends anyone, but i’ve been seeing a lot of similar patterns lately.

so, the kin community had a really huge boost of members in about 2014 or 2015. it was mostly people who believed in reincarnation or such, or people who were just getting into it (both just getting on the bandwagon and learning something new about themselves). today, the kin community has died down quite a bit. and i know there are lots of you out there who are just as passionate as me, or maybe you’re just a casual therian / firm believer in reincarnation. 

but what i’ve noticed is that there’s been a huge decrease of people who actually believe in reincarnation and the such and actually ‘care’ about kin. most people are treating it as just a silly game or something, i’ve seen tons of people refer to it as roleplaying.and, i know everyone has their own perspective and definition of what kin really is, but… i’m pretty sure that’s not what any of this is? wouldn’t that be a synpath or otherhearted? relating with a character because you identify with them a lot or roleplaying as a character you relate with or project onto isn’t what kin is at all, and i’m seeing tons of people getting all the definitions mixed together and it’s almost kind of alarming. from my understanding, it’s about identifying AS, not with characters, and in the case of therians (and even fictional characters!), learning about your past lives and connecting with them. this isn’t a lifestyle – it’s not something you necessarily need to devote your time and identity to, but it also isn’t some silly hobby or game. i’m not saying you have to take it seriously to be considered ‘valid’, but please do some research before you call yourself otherkin, fictionkin, or a therian!

 again, i’m really sorry if i offended anyone. reincarnation is a huge thing in my family’s culture, and i’ve been a firm believer of it since i was young, it’s just a really big part of my identity and it kind of disheartens me to see that the most of the community nowadays is people who aren’t even sure if they’re kin or not. 😦

 thank you so much for reading! feel free to reply, i actually encourage you to argue since i’ve never really had a chance to speak my opinion on this and would like to see this situation from different perspectives 

You are entirely correct, but you do seem a little confused so I’d like to explain what happened here.

Otherkinity, or rather, a very very warped version of it came to tumblr. I’d like to say 2012-2014, but honestly, I don’t remember. One of the earliest records we have of this warped version on tumblr is the Yandere Bitch Club. There aren’t many records left of them, but there are people who saw it firsthand and can tell you about it. The YBC was a few white girls pretending to be Japanese transwomen with DID in hopes of claiming all their favourite anime characters as their fictotypes without encountering doubles. 

They are the ones who started the “kin is a verb” and “you can’t be kin outside of your race” – along with other misinformation. They used their definitions and false authority to try and dictate others, but otherkin either looks crazy or super cool to outsiders, so they and others like them drew a lot of people in. Mostly teenagers.

Effectively, we were looking at the start of a cult-like mentality. Now, I heard about the community in 2015 or so, so I didn’t witness this myself. It wasn’t as bad as it is now about it, but it was kinda bad. It spun out of control and we were looking at a few hundred to a couple thousand people who aren’t otherkin, but think it’s a fancy roleplaying thing or a coping mechanism that allows them to dictate fandom and control others.

And yes, a large percentage of these people, who we’re going to call tumblrkin as that’s what they’re generally called, are also fandom antis. The older term for them is wishkin, but tumblrkin are the warped cult-like teenagers (and sometimes folks in their early 20s) who do this. They don’t understand it’s a personal spiritual and / or psychological belief. They have no idea what it actually is. It’s swapping kintypes like trading cards and using them to control people. And then it’s all dusted up in pastel pink, ‘uwu’ concern trolling, ‘think of the poor defenseless minors / POC!!’, and glitter.

It’s toxic and vicious is what it is. I had a tangle with it about a year ago. I still have no idea if the 21yo guy who got dragged into it was an actual pedophile or if he was framed because claiming ‘pedophile’ is a really good way to ruin someone’s life and 13yos are vicious and don’t understand consequences. (My digestive system is also still royally fucked up.)

The amount of actual otherkin and fictionkin is about the same ratio as always – maybe a little bit more, as the community gains more visibility and more people have words for their experiences. But never, and I cannot emphasize this enough, never take tumblrkin for actual otherkin unless you know that they are. Because they’re not. They’re so, so not, and all they’re doing is spreading misinformation and hurting people.

If you think you can correct some of them, try. But if you can’t or if you know you don’t have the patience / the willpower, don’t even bother, just block and move on. It’s not worth it. 

That being said, if someone who was previously tumblrkin wants to know what’s really going on, what otherkinity and fictionkind actually are – tell them! Let them know! And if they need help getting out of tumblrkin spaces, help them or direct them to someone who can. I’m all for giving people second chances and listening to them. But be careful about it, and you’ll be okay.

Now you know what happened, so you’ll be able to make better decisions about it now. 😀 If that helps?

devilworshippingscum:

shadowfae:

devilworshippingscum:

Anyone in the otherkin/therian community knows the terms ‘copinglinker’ and the less-known ‘copingkin’, right?

What if for those who do not have any legitimate kin/theriotypes, they are to use ‘copinglinker’, and for otherkin who happen to have certain ‘kintypes’ to cope, are called ‘copingkin’?

That’s… not what either of the terms mean.

Copingkin was created here on tumblr by those who had a vague idea what otherkinity was, and made nonhuman / fictional identites voluntarily to cope. However, because it was voluntary, it was pretty different than actual otherkinity. It gave off a lot of misconceptions by calling it copingkin, like it was just a different flavour of otherkin and not a completely different phenomenon.

@/who-is-page created ‘copinglinker’ as a term specifically to fix this, because like otherhearted, copinglinking isn’t quite otherkin (though similar), and deserves its own community.

Using an already discovered kintype to help cope is like using any other part of your identity to cope. That doesn’t need a new term. Copinglinking is the term for those who voluntarily make fictional / nonhuman identities to cope with something. It encompasses all that’s needed. 

You completely read this post wrong. I’m not saying that using kintypes to cope should be called ‘copingkin’, I’m saying that otherkin, who have legitimate kintypes, may want to take on a “”“”“kintype”“”“” to cope, but it is separate from their past lives or whatever they believe. I didn’t need a sassy little comment on this

Edit: and I mean it was just a suggestion? Maybe some people want a separate term?? Goddamn

Yeah, that’s a copinglink, regardless on if you have kintypes or not. Copingkin got dropped (it isn’t lesser-used, it’s just archaic) because copinglinking was coined. They’re the same thing.

Copinglinks are generally separate unless the person in question needs them to be related for whatever reason. You’re not exactly explaining why someone would need a separate term at all, and what you did manage to convey is that you don’t know the history of the terms, nor what they mean. 

I’m not being sassy, and if I come across that way, then I apologize. I don’t want misinformation anywhere, and if it’s not a complete lost cause, I’m going to correct people on it, as I would expect someone to do if I got something wrong.